Did any guardians join the Darkness?

I have been wondering due to the many differences and arguments we have in our own world happened in the Destiny history. I haven’t fully searched the lore yet but the only person I can see who might have joined the Darkness was Rasputin when (or if) he shot the Traveler. Did any other individuals abandon their deliverer or maybe even groups of people?


Well, I don’t think Rasputin did but one Guardian that did fall to the Darkness is Rezyl Azir. He created the gun thorn which was imbued with hive magic and he lost his light and became Dredgen Yor. He murdered Jaren Ward whose student Shin Malphur who ended him.


Is there any grimoir on this?

Oh there’s a ton here’s a link: https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/dredgen-yor and https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/jaren-ward and here’s one more https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/shin-malphur, last one I promise https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/rezyl-azzir


Wow that’s a lot. Thanks for the input!

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Np have fun reading!

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Alongside Dredgen Yor/Rezyl Azzir, there are also people such as Toland the Shattered, who went “mad” studying the Hive and helped Eriana-3 and Eris Morn create the First Crota Fireteam, although he ultimately abandoned them in order to meet Ir Yut.

To a lesser extent, there’s Osiris, who were exiled due to his own obsession with the enemy, the Ahamkara, etc. Osiris didn’t necessarily turn to the Darkness, but he was considered dangerous enough to be exiled, much like Toland.

Another argument in the lore is the Faction Wars, especially Lysander & the Concordat. There’s not much information on the Concordat, but Lysander’s entry has all of the available information, and this post has some great speculation/theorizing about the Concordat’s motives.


Thanks @erin! That was interesting. I was reading through some of this and I wonder what goes on with Dredgon Yor and that witch on the moon… Destiny really likes mysteries

Hi guys! Recently read through some of the new posts and they kind of left me wondering whether or not Osiris was in his own way joining the Darkness?

I wouldn’t say joining the Darkness. More like he was trying to understand the vex by almost becoming one in a way by going into the network.


Alright, but wasn’t he angry with the speaker?

Yeah cause the Speaker was forbidding him from studying them any longer plus, he was having hunters follow frivolous objects, titans go after the vault of glass and warlocks getting too close to the vex for comfort.


OK, so he was in some sort of in-between stage?

Osiris was exiled, but he didn’t “join the Darkness” in the same way that Toland or Yor did. Instead of killing other Guardians, he was exiled for his “greatest crime”:

Hunters chose to pursue your visions instead of protecting refugees, Titans assembled teams to chase the legendary Vault of Glass instead of striking the Fallen, and Warlocks turned away from the study of the Traveler in favor of your ultimate obsession… learning the exact nature of the Darkness.

He’s said to be ‘mad,’ but we don’t know to what capacity. Additionally, many of his theories were actually correct:

I fear you have become as obsessed with the Vex as Toland was with the Hive. I’ve heard your own insane prophecies about pits and dead Hive kings. And of Crota, which now I cannot deny.

Two of those theories being Crota and Oryx. Osiris didn’t become enamored with the Deep; he was too divisive during a time in which unity was necessary to keep the City alive.