So should we just leave this theory as a maybe?
I agree with almost everything that you said, but I think this is a bit unfair to Ghosts.
It seems to me that Ghosts are definitely capable of feeling, perceiving and experiencing the world subjectively. So to me, Ghosts are definitely sentient.
This is an interesting idea, but after reading through the discussion there’s no evidence to support it.
If we were to put it on @Cpt_Kex’s scale of certainty, where would it sit?
I think it would have to sit at “speculation” at the moment.
Possible. I’ve delved into thinking about things with little to no evidence and let my imagination think of the rest. Maybe a bad idea, I dunno maybe I’m just being too much of an optimist
There’s nothing wrong with optimism! There are plenty of theories that I hope are true, too.
So small update… have you looked at the Grimoire card Cabal 4? It talks about the Guardians salvaging for stuff and all that (even poking at usual mars stuff like dancing and sparrow tricks) but it says that they come back from death by what they call a small autonomous drone dubbed"Dead Person"…evidence…?
Most likely that’s the closest approximation the Cabal language has for the word “ghost”. Note the brackets reading “translation unclear”.
This capability is provided by a small autonomous drone unit called a Dead Person [trans. unclear].
The mission report also refers to the Ghost as a drone unit, so it’s clear the Cabal see it as a machine. However, whether or not the Traveler is just a machine is the subject of an entire scene between Ghaul and Consul, and complicit in the disagreement that leads to Ghaul killing his teacher, so, it appears both positions are being explored through the lore.
…well frick I was conident in this XD
There’s nothing wrong with being excited.
Well now with Forsaken, I found an entry that seems to confirm that Ghosts have people’s souls in them:
And I knew what I needed to do. Somewhere in this wide, amazing galaxy there was a person. They were quiet and dead, like We had been, but I could bring them back. I could share what was inside of me, this glorious warmth and life and breath and being.
This is from The We Before Us:
What do y’all think?
The Ghost is the resurrection of every guy in the chair.
Wut???
I think this you finally found the best evidence yet. We know that “We” are the ghost and the fact that they give warmth from inside them most definitely hints to the soul, which makes the traveler all the more suspicious, of which mine lie in the fact that he got them from the collapse
I was actually thinking about this a couple days ago and it’s good that there are other people that think the same way, but man a 2 year convo that goes over it is even better.
I did some digging and found that possibly the Traveler is getting impatient with ghost who haven’t found their partner
Anwar paused. Drifted a few feet toward the luminous Living Traveler. “Dejana, can you feel it?”
followed Anwar’s gaze up to the Traveler. “Feel what?”
“The pressure.”
this is from the Pressure lore card from the ghost stories where two ghost talk about how they served the speaker instead of finding a guardian and that they always felt a sort of pressure to do their sole purpose
Maybe this pressure on the ghost only came on after the Traveler became alive? Before D2 we’ve always seen/read/heard that the traveler is dormant, not using much of strength only to, And this is an assumption what I’m about to say, use souls I gained from the collapse and possible from the kills other guardians got against the darkness. But now it used its revived itself possibly sensing all the danger in its Blast radius, and is now pressuring ghost without a guardian to find one, because if they don’t? The world of Destiny won’t end in our favor.
You ever see Spiderman Homecoming? The guy in teh chair is the guy that sits in a chair surrounded by computers and tells the hero what to do
That’s what I was thinking like the traveler just woke up from a coma and is on full alert mode and telling the ghosts to get to work
(please have it noted that I haven’t read many of the reply’s and apologize for any repeated info)
the first thing to state is this. legitimately everything has a name for as long as a sentient species with a developed language exists. The second being due to the ghosts nature it is there sole purpose in life to find a warrior in tune with the light, (possible spin-foil) I had always assumed that the ghost could feel the “spark” of light inside the dead and that is why they felt drawn to it
Blockquote And the dead child in her arms.
The others tried to calm them, out of fear that the Fallen would return. The attack had been swift and brutal. Twenty dead. Only nine survivors, here, in this cave. I watched the tree line, anxious and afraid.
The mother’s pain filled the space between the thick trees. I turned back to her and saw it for the first time: the child’s spark.
Faint. But there.
This little boy was not my charge. Those selected to return were champions. This child was so small, so frail. What devotion had he shown? What bravery? What had he sacrificed? But a thought lingered…
Was it not my purest purpose to deliver hope?
for your conclusion, it is possible, but in my mind at least unlikely
is that how they got their name? (ghost)
how did anything get a name, they ether came up with one or was named by someone else