I wasn’t saying the chronicon was a good source, I was just saying where the drifter said that. (I think)
It was in some SoO item lore - Austringer or Beloved?
Fair enough, which I do believe he does. But still. It’s doubtful that Calus is truly Cabal anymore
I doubt it was the cronicon because the Cronicon is basically Calus’s fanfiction about us. It is his psions “predicting” the future but faking it to where it is what Calus wants to happen.
“Look guys we just need to tell him what he wants to hear.”
“But won’t he figure it out?”
“No! Of coooouuurrrsssse not. Just write stuff that sounds interesting and cool and you’ll be a-okay.”
“If you say so…”
Seriously though! It’s like he just told them to predict the future so they just fake it till they make it and we’re gonna break it. I assume.
Exactly. Would highly recommend everybody read it. Its pretty interesting.
Maybe it was in the other lore book? I remember reading through all the new lore when it was added and I read that. I’ll see if I can find it.
Another theory I’ve heard, and can see myself, is that Callus is actually an Ahamkara.
Mostly because of the words he uses during the Menagerie, I believe I heard him use this phrase in particular, which we’ve really only ever heard in Destiny when the Ahamkara are involved.
“… Oh champion, mine.”
This could just be spinfoil here, but might have some purchase? It would also make what Drifter said about him make alot of sense. Ahamkara can take the form we want them to take, like how Riven fooled Uldren into thinking Mara Sov was guiding him. My first indication was the 'Oh brother, Mine." that we were dealing with an Ahamkara. Maybe Emperor Callus is a Ahamkara in Cabal form, knows that it doesn’t necissarily work on Guardians, and is staying hidden from us because of it. (Also theory on wether the Ahamkara’s illusions/wishes work on guardians or not, I’ve got no solid proof of that xD)
The thing is, even most of his soldiers and court do not see him in physical form. Always a robot stand in.
I always thought that he said “O Champion Mine” just to screw with us, because he knows that we dealt with an ahamkara. And that sounds like something he would do.
Or he just doesn’t have a great grasping of English. To be completely fair, our language is freakin WEIRD man.
Who said our guardians were speaking english?
You’re right! That’s assuming we talk at all! Silly me!
I mean depending on where you play the game and what language you play it in, your guardian, ghost could speak in many different languages.
Well English is one language in the world that most people speak. I’m just assuming this because it seems to be how many of the people have their game set up, am I wrong? But I do see what you mean.
“Find them,” he told the messenger. “Find me this hero. And we will go to them.” He turned to Tlu’arg and instructed him to set a course for the Sol system. Then, he commanded Ilhali to prepare his other Automatons, the robotic creations made in the likeness of the great Emperor, which were built so that His Joyful Majesty might be able to watch himself in many unique situations. The Emperor did not specify why the Automatons should be prepared, but there was such joy in his voice that his Advisors made no objections.
This section might lead to the idea that the emperor has no true body anymore.
He instructs Ilhali to prepare his other Automatons, like he might be speaking through one.
Just a thought
Penubral Cloak Lore piece:
"…He chuckled, suddenly. “I leave the system for a couple hundred years and everything goes to hell.” He shook his head. “Look at you. The Cabal Emperor isn’t even Cabal anymore. Right?”
It’s not a chronicon entry it’s real Calus-Drifter interrogation.
Wait, is it true Calus has extra skin that is used to make the robot stand-ins?
Funny how this concept is used a couple times in the lore.
We of course have Calas, but also Osiris and the Ishtar researchers that were in the vex mind.
Also to go a step further our ghosts could be seen as many copies of the traveler, even the vex can be seen as multiple copies of the root mind.
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