while i agree with the pve aspect of it, im sorry to say this as any, shadow shot is only good in mayhem or life or death situations where your equally as likely to die ether way, even then a BB secures your life 90% of the time
Ha ha ha. About that… I recently did a game of mayhem with my friends, they were all using blade barrage, one guy was using tether, and I was code of the commander titan. Lets just say it didn’t go well for the people using blade barrage(#absorbed and protected). Against the tether though… I just die.
Have to admit there are better options than tether for comp crucible at least.
It’s alright in PVP, but compared to like spectral blades… no competition.
Mayhem… you son of a chicken nugget.
I main Hunter. rest in peace Cayde-6
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damn chicken nuggets, always having sons somehow 
(later quote) I love how this last comment ended this conversation
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SInce this is the only class-based post I could find, I’m going to put this here.
I’m worried about Warlocks in shadowkeep
I say this because our main use is being take by titans, Well of Radiance. I say this because bubble is getting weapons of light back, witch is a bigger buff than what Well of Radiance gives you, so no one is going to want well Warlocks. Also, lunafactions are getting nerfed to remove auto-loading. That’s another strike against Warlocks. There is another path left for Warlocks to go (PvE wise) and that is DPS. But, Warlocks do not have any good DPS supers. ONE full Nova bomb deals the same damage as HALF of ONE precision Golden gun shot (No Nighthawk). Other option is Chaos reach. It has reasonable DPS, but the problem is that it take so long to get full damage, so you are missing out on valuable Weapon damage time, whereas Celestial Nighthawk is super quick and does way more damage. Another Strike. Last path for Warlocks is add-clear. They are also outclassed here. The best add-clear supper they have is either Stormcaller or Bottom tree Dawnblade. But why use these when you could have a Hammer Titan that not only clears adds, but can apply melting point? Or an Arc Strider hunter that can clear adds, but also get combination blow with Liars Handshake and One-Two punch for massive DPS? Strike three. So, in PvE, Warlocks are completely outclassed.
Does anyone else share my concerns? I’m just very worried about Warlock Relevancy in Shadowkeep.
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Honestly, If titans were removed, I think the game might benefit, perhaps replaced with a defense based class (what Titans should of been instead of a clusterfuck of cheap items, supers and abilities) that bungie doesn’t have a hard on for
I completely agree. Even warlock’s one very viable pvp super got instantly shot down to garbage, yet they took more than three months to slightly nerf spectral blades.
Ah yes, and everyone complained about Warlocks getting all the attention way back when…
Thing is it was the warlock’s first really good pvp super. Yet everyone complained about it soo much and it got nerfed to garbo so fast.
Petition to rise up against classism against 'Locks?
but tell me brother, have hunters ever really been OP, our only glory days that I can remember were the pre nerf wormhusk days when hunters couldn’t die for a week or two, of course it was nerfed to the ground and we hunters haven’t gotten any great exotic options since (except liars handshake but the arcstrider class is outdone by many others) but then Titans get what basically is a better version of it (wormhusk) (with 1 eye all you have to do is be half decent at dueling to secure full health and oversheild in seconds and the second someone engages you, you know there position for quite a bit) and its barely been nerfed, along with this they have not one, not two, but three viable super options (sentinel frisbee requires no aim to autokill, hammers ill admit is the weakest of their roaming supers but its still a ranged roaming super, and bottom tree striker is basically pre nerfed spec blades with faster speed and an AOE attack)
But you all still pound the Warlocks to nothing, do you not? No viable supers for us either. RISE AGAINST THE TYRANNICAL TITAN RULE
GET VIABLE SUPERS, GOOD EXOTICS AND AT LEAST THE OPTION FOR A 1 SHOT MELEE FOR HUNTERS!!! (and warlocks too) or just make Titans less OP
Warlocks just need to get their melee fixed. Its stupid that we melee slower than everyone else, but we don’t have any extra range. Bungie can start with that
So who’s making the Twitter account to make a list of requests/demands?
Yeah. Im pretty sure warlocks even have less range than other classes. Also let us cancel using a rift.
yea that was one of the reasons I didnt play warlock, that thing left me open for waaay to long, and that makes me think, can hunters actually get some defense with our dodge? its less of a dodge and more of a moving away and hoping you dont get shot in the process
One way to keep warlocks relevant is to keep lunafactions the way that they are, and not change them. Also sad about the hours I put in to get a good roll lunafaction